Anand [devanand.tr@247customer.com] comments
Two points. 1)It is not correct to say that ‘Badagas are Kannadigas who got migrated from Mysore region in 1600 AD‘. See the pages on Badaga Origin.2) There is no denying the fact that Badaga resembles halaya Kannada to a large extent. Or is it possible that Kannada resembles Badaga to a large extent? Half full or half empty?? – Wg Cdr JP
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I came across another book on Badaga by Jakkanaarai SIVAJI RAMAN. The book is in Tamil and titled ‘படுக சமுதாயம் [Badaga Samudhayam] – Badaga Community.
One of the most interesting information Sivaji Raman conveys in his book is that Badaga language finds extensive mention in old – purana – Tamil literature like ” Tholkaappiam” where it is clearly mentioned that Badaga was a separate language spoken in a northern nation to Tamil nadu called ‘VADAGAM [Badaga]‘, the other ‘countries’ being Karnadagam [Kannada], Konganam [Konkani], Kudagam [Coorgi], Thuluvam [Thulu], Telingam [Telugu] and Kalingam [Oriya]. He goes on to quote a few verses where ‘vadaga’ is mentioned. He is of the opinion that Badaga can be traced back to 2300 years.
Sivaji Raman laments :
‘ படுக மொழி தற்பொழுது படிப்பு, தொழில் ஆகியவற்றில் தமிழ் மற்றும் ஆங்கிலத்தின் தாக்கம் காரணமாக மிகவும் மாறுபட்டு பேசப்படுகிறது. தூய படுகு தெரிந்தவர்களே இல்லை என்றாகிவிட்டது. இது படுக மொழியில் சொல் பஞ்ச்சத்தால் ஏற்பட்டதன்று. படுக மொழியின் ஏராளமான சொற்கள் மறக்கப்பட்டு மறைந்து விட்டன. இதற்கு காரணம் படுகு மொழிக்கு வரிவடிவம் இல்லாததேயாகும்’
( Badaga is spoken very differently due to the influence by Tamil and English on education and profession. It appears that there are none who know ‘PURE’ Badaga. This is not due to lack of words in Badaga. Lot of Badaga words have been forgotten [due to the influence of Tamil and English] and hence become extinct. The reason for this is that BADAGA language DOES NOT HAVE A SCRIPT).
I totally agree with him.
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I’ve recently started a blog, the information you provide on this website has helped me greatly. Thank you for all of your time & work.
I am from Sathyamangalam… very much fond of badaga and badaga language and songs. in order to learn all these i need a guru cum close friend. can i get any one like that, who can be my guru and as well as my dear and close friend?
Hello Sir, How are you ? after a long time. I was pleased with the appearance of the site now and it looks great and appealing. Badaga people should join together to form a Badaga Sakithya Academy to preserve their language, culture and also Nilgiris on the whole. I saw in news many bad people building concrete buildings in nilgiris and destroying it and its beauty. People of Nilgiris and Tamil Nadu govt. should do something to preserve the beauty and nature of nilgiris. Any how. I just want to say hi to all badaga friens here. See you soon
Hi Sir, After a long time am back. to see you have did a lot of changes to the appearance of this site but the colours are so dark and not appealing to eyes… if you want some premium themes for wordpress for free of cost. if you would like to do a webdesign or upload the theme or send the theme to your site….. pls do email me…. i want to help you to make this site look much appealing sir…
How do I wish a girl in Badaga saying 1) “wish you happy birthday, 2)you look beautiful
I was wondering someone might be able to tell me how one would say “I love you” in Badaga.
Now only i came to know all months in badaga language…..Marvellous…..
PRABU. M
Ajjoor.
can u confirm if the dialects published in your website does exist, because being a badaga I felt that we do not have any dialect and our language is from Kanada please reply
JP adds – The origin of Badaga – both the people and language – is still a mystery and no conclusive proof has been given/ found so far. Though it is an undisputable fact that Badaga and kannada are closely linked, my gut feeling is BADAGA IS A SEPARATE DRAVIDIAN LANGUAGE.
Could you translate this for me? hope its right.. been years since i heard it..iga enandare idudhadaiya ille idupiliye.
i like badaga
i am also badaga
i am from idduhatty village
Recently visited your Badaga tradition and language blog. I was completely awestruck by the history, origin ,culture, customs, rituals, language and lifestyle.
I need your help in knowing more about the tradition, culture and about the language. Do u have any websites or recommended books to learn Badaga language.
its really amazing to see such sort of a special website for de badagas……………………………………..
I AM BADUGA , RECENTLY I VISITED YOUR SITE AND KNOWN ABOUT MONTHS . THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
super analysis, proud to find a language/dialect so similar to kannada, was never aware of it, now i know why so many speak kannada in ooty
Nagulan Joghee’s choice of some of the proverbs quoted by Prof.Paul Hockings in his book on ‘Badaga proverbs , curses and Omens’ with English meaning :
Badaga Proverbs:
“Akka iddale baava ; rokka iddale sule
Okkuva hana hattale Urella nattu”
If (only) you have an elder sister, there is a sister’s husband;
If you have cash you have a kiln ( or prostitute);
If you have lots of cash , the whole village is related to you.
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“Hetta hotte ondaleyu huttu bere buddi bere”
The stomach that has given birth [to various people] is one;
[they are of] different sense and different complexion
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“Nega evalikkile , ne baluga evalikkira”
If you give order to a dog, it will give order to its tail
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“Kall aduvane ne ille ; ne ibbane kallille”
When the stone is there , there is no dog; when there is a dog there is no stone
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“Tekkana illada teru nadeya ; badakanillade bandi nadeya”
A chariot won’t move without its wheel; A cart won’t move without the driver
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“ Uppillada uta holla; kavalillada kote holla”
Food without salt is bad; and a fortress without a guard is bad
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“Saranana gunava maranado: nodu”
The nature of the greeting gesture is seen in the death
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“Ennega ele:ru kattuvaduna , hada nodi onderu kattu”\
Instead of tying seven[oxen] to the millpole[for pressing oil];
Tie one[pair] to plough the dampened soil
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“Ondu kanasuno: bagarava:
With one dream will dawn come?
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“Mane muridale kattaku; Mana muridale kattoga”
If the house breaks you can rebuild it ; if the heart breaks you cannot repair it
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“Kalaga takkada kola ; desaga takkada base”
[Place the] ornamentation at the appropriate time;
[Speak the] language appropriate to the linguistic area
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“Ondu tatte budda guiga handi endaleyu buva”
Even a pig , having once fallen once into that pit, won’t fall into the same pit again
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“Ondu kopado: hallaga buddale, ombattu kopado:geyu ebbagugaga”
If in single anger[you have] drowned in a lake, you can’t come up again with nine[times that] anger
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Wonderful collections & presentation. Going through such articles brings a sort of nostalgic feeling for people like me who are destined to be away from Nilgiris for one reason or the other. Anyway , it is all amazingly enjoyable and you deserve the credit for that.
Great Collections….